One of FAQ from visitors it sounds like this: the electricity tariffs that we are exposed to in a gardening association are higher than the approved official tariff, is this legal? The short answer is no, it's not legal. Details - see below.

Payment for electricity in SNT: legislation

Let's start by clarifying right away - by "SNT" we mean not only the actual "horticultural non-profit partnerships", but also other associations. Gardening, country, cottage. And in addition to associations, there are also partnerships and cooperatives. It just so happened that the abbreviation "SNT" has become the most common designation for this kind of merging.

Further. According to the current (November 2018) law “On horticultural, gardening and country non-profit associations of citizens” (dated April 15, 1998 No. 66-FZ), SNT is "non-commercial an organization established by citizens on a voluntary basis to assist its members in solving common social and economic problems of gardening, horticulture and dacha farming.

SNT has common property. It is intended to meet the needs of members of the association in the "passage, passage, water supply and sanitation, electricity supply, gas supply, heat supply, security, organization of recreation and other needs.

At the same time, the members of the SNT are obliged to pay membership fees. In other words, the regular contribution of funds, “for the maintenance of common property, remuneration of workers who have entered into employment contracts with such an association, and other operating expenses of such an association.

In addition, members of the association through "target", "additional"and" share "contributions pay for the purchase, repair, creation of new objects of common property, as well as repay the debts formed by gardening for one reason or another.

All this is spelled out in Article 1 of the above law N 66-FZ.

As you can see, the legislation indicates that members of the SNT have the right to ensure their needs for electricity. And at the same time, they are obliged to pay membership fees, due to which this electricity supply is carried out. As well as repairing, improving, servicing the association's power grid facilities. This is the normative side of things.

Payment for electricity in SNT: the main problem

The practical side is that an electricity meter is installed on the border of the internal SNT network. It shows how much electricity was supplied to the horticultural association. All this volume SNT is obliged to pay.

The association collects funds for payment from its members, as well as individuals who manage the economy on the territory of the SNT on an individual basis, and who are not members of the association (let's call them “individuals” for simplicity). Both SNT members and "individuals" keep records of consumption at their sites using individual electricity meters.

The problem, however, is that the sum of the readings of all individual meters will in any case be lower than the electricity consumption taken into account by the general meter at the “entrance” to the SNT.

The first reason for this is technological losses in partnership networks. They can range from a few percent to 10% of the “incoming” electricity volumes. This figure depends on the state of the infrastructure of the partnership: transformers, wires of power lines, metering devices.

In addition to technological losses, the difference between the readings of individual and general meters also arises due to unaccounted for consumption (consider theft) of electricity, as well as delays in the transmission of meter readings.

The result is: SNT, based on the testimony general appliance electricity metering, owes the power supply company one amount. And to collect from the members of the SNT, based on the current tariffs and the readings of their meters, maybe another, noticeably smaller one.

And even if theft can be controlled and simultaneous meter readings can be achieved, the problem of technological losses remains. You can solve it in two ways:

- increase the tariff at which gardeners pay for electricity, make it higher than the officially approved for the population this region

- to introduce an additional contribution, due to which losses in the networks are paid.

And although the current legislation does not contain direct explanations in this regard, based on the current judicial practice, the second way is correct.

Compensation for losses in SNT power networks: judicial practice

Consider exemplary decision court in the case of "inflated" electricity tariffs in SNT.

Resident Krasnoyarsk Territory appealed to one of the local district courts with a claim against their SNT "Agrarnik". IN statement of claim the woman demanded to cancel the decision of the general meeting of members of the SNT, which was set inflated (from her point of view) electricity tariff in the amount of 2 rubles. for 1 kWh Despite the fact that in the territory of the Krasnoyarsk Territory at that time (2012) the tariff for the population was only 1.6 rubles. per kWh

In court proceedings, a representative of SNT stated that the decision to assign an increased tariff was made in order to cover losses arising in the electrical networks and transformers of the partnership. Their volume is 5.2%. According to the representative of the SNT, decisions taken did not contradict the current legislation, since the payment was made for the amount of energy actually received by the subscriber in accordance with the energy metering data.

However, the court disagreed with this view. The court decision states that the current legislation (namely, the Order Federal Service according to the tariffs of August 6, 2004 N 20-e / 2 “On approval of guidelines for calculating tariffs and prices for electricity and heat in the retail consumer market”), horticultural non-profit associations are equated (in terms of the effect of electricity tariffs) to the category “population”.

At the same time, the decision on the amount of the electricity tariff for the population is made by the authorized regional body executive power. In the case of the Krasnoyarsk Territory - the Regional Energy Commission (REC). And payment for electricity consumption by SNT members should be made exactly according to the tariff approved by the Krasnoyarsk REC.

On the part of the SNT, objections were presented at the court in the sense that 2 rubles. per kWh This is not a tariff, but a "charge for electricity". It is set as a "complex indicator for settlements within the garden partnership", with its help the expenses for losses and maintenance of the partnership's electricity networks are covered, and this is not at all the same as the regional electricity tariff.

The court disagreed with this interpretation. The tariff, from the judge's point of view, is the tariff. It pays for electricity consumption. And the payment for the maintenance of the networks and the covering of losses should be levied with the help of special additional contributions.

As a result, the application of the SNT member to cancel the inflated tariff was granted. You can read the court's decision in full at this link.

There are many such solutions. And, despite this, practice shows that horticultural associations still massively set their own "internal" inflated tariff for electricity.

The latest news on this topic is the results of an inspection by the prosecutor's office of the Nizhny Novgorod region of compliance with the law when paying for electricity in horticultural associations in the region. In total, about forty cases of establishing an “overpriced” electricity tariff in SNT were identified. Their chairmen received proposals from the prosecutor's office to eliminate the identified violations.

Payment for electricity and the new law on SNT

It is also worth mentioning that from January 1, 2019 comes into force new law on horticultural associations (Federal Law of July 29, 2017 N 217-FZ “On the conduct by citizens of gardening and horticulture for their own needs and on amendments to certain legislative acts Russian Federation»)

This document brings great clarity to the question of interest to us. In particular, paragraph 5 of Art. 14 of the law among the types of membership fees in the horticultural association are listed separately:

- contributions making settlements with suppliers of heat and electricity, water, gas, sanitation on the basis of agreements concluded with these organizations;

- contributions to the maintenance of the common property of the partnership

Thus, the division of payment for electricity in horticultural associations into two components - payments for actually consumed electricity and a contribution to pay for losses in networks - becomes more obvious.

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Losses in power networks are considered the difference between the transmitted electricity from the producer to the accounted consumed electricity by the consumer. Losses occur on power lines, in power transformers, due to eddy currents when consuming devices with a reactive load, as well as due to poor insulation of conductors and theft of unaccounted electricity. In this article, we will try to talk in detail about what are the losses of electricity in electrical networks, and also consider measures to reduce them.

Distance from the power plant to the supplying organizations

Accounting and payment for all types of losses is regulated by the legislative act: “Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of December 27, 2004 N 861 (as amended on February 22, 2016) “On Approval of the Rules for Non-Discriminatory Access to Electricity Transmission Services and the Provision of These Services ...” paragraph VI. The procedure for determining losses in electrical networks and paying for these losses. If you want to deal with who should pay for part of the lost energy, we recommend that you study this act.

When electricity is transmitted over long distances from the producer to the supplier to the consumer, part of the energy is lost for many reasons, one of which is the voltage consumed by ordinary consumers (it is 220 or 380 V). If such a voltage is transported directly from the generators of power plants, then it is necessary to lay electrical networks with a wire diameter that will provide all the necessary current with the specified parameters. The wires will be very thick. It will not be possible to hang them on power lines, due to heavy weight, laying in the ground will also be expensive.

You can learn more about that in our article!

To eliminate this factor, high-voltage power lines are used in distribution networks. Simple Formula calculation is as follows: P=I*U. Power is equal to the product of current and voltage.

Power consumption, W	Voltage, V	Current, A
100 000	220	454,55
100 000	10 000	10

By increasing the voltage during the transmission of electricity in electrical networks, you can significantly reduce the current, which will make it possible to get by with wires with a much smaller diameter. The pitfall of this conversion is that there are losses in transformers that someone has to pay for. When transmitting electricity with such a voltage, it is also significantly lost from poor contact of conductors, which increase their resistance over time. Losses increase with increasing air humidity - the leakage current on the insulators and on the corona increases. Losses in cable lines also increase with a decrease in wire insulation parameters.

The supplier transferred energy to the supplying organization. That, in turn, should bring the parameters to the desired indicators: convert the resulting product into a voltage of 6-10 kV, dilute cable lines point by point, and then again convert to a voltage of 0.4 kV. Again, there are losses for the transformation during the operation of transformers 6-10 kV and 0.4 kV. Electricity is delivered to the household consumer in the required voltage - 380 V or 220 V. Any transformer has its own efficiency and is designed for a certain load. If the power consumption is more or less than the calculated power, the losses in the electrical networks increase regardless of the desire of the supplier.

The next pitfall is the discrepancy between the power of the transformer that converts 6-10 kV to 220V. If consumers take energy more than the nameplate power of the transformer, it either fails or will not be able to provide the necessary parameters at the output. As a result of a decrease in the mains voltage, electrical appliances operate in violation of the passport regime and, as a result, increase consumption.

Measures to reduce technical losses of electricity in power supply systems are discussed in detail in the video:

Home conditions

The consumer received his 220/380 V on the meter. Now the electrical energy lost after the meter falls on the end consumer.

It is made up of:

1. Losses in case of exceeding the calculated consumption parameters.
2. Poor contact in switching devices (knife switches, starters, switches, lamp holders, plugs, sockets).
3. Capacitive nature of the load.
4. Inductive nature of the load.
5. Use of outdated lighting systems, refrigerators and other old equipment.

Consider measures to reduce electricity losses in houses and apartments.

P.1 - there is only one fight against this type of loss: the use of conductors corresponding to the load. In existing networks, it is necessary to monitor the compliance of wire parameters and power consumption. If it is impossible to correct these parameters and bring them back to normal, one should put up with the fact that energy is lost to heat the wires, as a result of which the parameters of their insulation change and the likelihood of a fire in the room increases. About that, we talked about in the corresponding article.

P.2 - poor contact: in knife switches - this is the use of modern designs with good non-oxidizing contacts. Any oxide increases resistance. In starters - the same way. Switches - the on-off system must use a metal that can withstand moisture well, elevated temperatures. The contact must be ensured by a good pressing of one pole to the other.

P.3, P.4 - reactive load. All electrical appliances that do not belong to incandescent lamps, old-style electric stoves have a reactive component of electricity consumption. Any inductance, when a voltage is applied to it, resists the passage of current through it due to the resulting magnetic induction. After a while, electromagnetic induction, which prevented the passage of current, helps its passage and adds to the network part of the energy that is harmful to the general networks. There are so-called eddy currents that distort the true readings of electricity meters and make negative changes in the parameters of the supplied electricity. The same happens with a capacitive load. The resulting eddy currents spoil the parameters of the electricity supplied to the consumer. Struggle - the use of special reactive energy compensators, depending on the load parameters.

P.5. Use of outdated lighting systems (incandescent bulbs). Their efficiency has a maximum value - 3-5%, and maybe less. The remaining 95% goes to heating the filament and, as a result, to heating environment and not perceptible to radiation human eye. Therefore, it became impractical to improve this type of lighting. Other types of lighting have appeared - fluorescent lamps, which have become widely used in Lately. The efficiency of fluorescent lamps reaches 7%, and LED up to 20%. The use of the latter will save energy right now and during operation due to a long service life - up to 50,000 hours (an incandescent lamp - 1,000 hours).

Separately, I would like to note that it is possible to reduce the loss of electrical energy in the house with the help of. In addition, as we have already said, electricity is lost when it is stolen. If you notice that, you must immediately take appropriate measures. Where to call for help, we told in the corresponding article, which we referred to!

The above methods of reducing power consumption reduce the load on the wiring in the house and, as a result, reduce losses in the power grid. As you already understood, the methods of struggle are most widely disclosed for residential consumers because not every owner of an apartment or house is aware of possible losses of electricity, and supplying organizations in their state keep workers specially trained on this topic who are able to deal with such problems.

Losses of electricity in electrical networks are inevitable, so it is important that they do not exceed an economically justified level. Exceeding the norms of technological consumption indicates problems that have arisen. To remedy the situation, it is necessary to establish the causes of untargeted costs and choose ways to reduce them. The information collected in the article describes many aspects of this difficult task.

Types and structure of losses

Losses mean the difference between the electricity supplied to consumers and actually received by them. To normalize losses and calculate their actual value, the following classification was adopted:

• technological factor. It directly depends on the characteristic physical processes, and can change under the influence of the load component, semi-fixed costs, as well as climatic conditions.
• Expenses spent on the operation of auxiliary equipment and provision necessary conditions for the work of technical staff.
• commercial component. This category includes errors in metering devices, as well as other factors that cause underestimation of electricity.

Below is an average loss graph for a typical power company.

As can be seen from the graph, the largest costs are associated with transmission over air lines (TL), which is about 64% of total number losses. In second place is the effect of corona (ionization of air near the wires of overhead lines and, as a result, the occurrence of discharge currents between them) - 17%.

Based on the presented graph, it can be stated that the largest percentage of non-targeted expenses falls on the technological factor.

The main causes of electricity losses

Having dealt with the structure, let's move on to the reasons that cause misuse in each of the categories listed above. Let's start with the components of the technological factor:

1. Load losses, they occur in power lines, equipment and various elements of power networks. Such costs directly depend on the total load. This component includes:

• Losses in power lines, they are directly related to the strength of the current. That is why, when transmitting electricity over long distances, the principle of increasing by several times is used, which contributes to a proportional decrease in current, respectively, and costs.
• Consumption in transformers, which has a magnetic and electrical nature (). As an example, below is a table that provides cost data for voltage transformers of substations in 10 kV networks.

Non-target expenditure in other elements is not included in this category, due to the complexity of such calculations and the insignificant amount of costs. For this, the following component is provided.

1. Category of semi-fixed expenses. It includes the costs associated with the normal operation of electrical equipment, these include:

• Idle operation of power plants.
• Costs in equipment providing reactive load compensation.
• Other types of costs in various devices, the characteristics of which do not depend on the load. Examples include power insulation, metering devices in 0.38 kV networks, measuring current transformers, surge arresters, etc.

Considering the last factor, the cost of electricity for melting ice should be taken into account.

Substation support costs

This category includes the cost of electrical energy for the operation of auxiliary devices. Such equipment is necessary for the normal operation of the main units responsible for the conversion of electricity and its distribution. Cost fixing is carried out by metering devices. Here is a list of the main consumers belonging to this category:

• ventilation and cooling systems for transformer equipment;
• heating and ventilation of the technological room, as well as internal lighting devices;
• lighting of territories adjacent to substations;
• battery charging equipment;
• operational chains and control and management systems;
• heating systems for outdoor equipment, such as air circuit breaker control modules;
• various types of compressor equipment;
• auxiliary mechanisms;
• equipment for repair work, communications equipment, and other devices.

Commercial component

These costs mean the balance between absolute (actual) and technical losses. Ideally, this difference should tend to zero, but in practice this is not realistic. First of all, this is due to the peculiarities of metering devices for supplied electricity and electricity meters installed at end consumers. It's about error. There are a number of specific measures to reduce losses of this type.

This component also includes errors in invoices issued to consumers and theft of electricity. In the first case, such a situation may arise for the following reasons:

• the contract for the supply of electricity contains incomplete or incorrect information about the consumer;
• incorrectly indicated tariff;
• lack of control over the data of metering devices;
• errors related to previously corrected invoices, etc.

As for theft, this problem occurs in all countries. As a rule, unscrupulous household consumers are engaged in such illegal actions. Note that sometimes there are incidents with enterprises, but such cases are quite rare, therefore they are not decisive. Characteristically, the peak of theft falls on the cold season, and in those regions where there are problems with heat supply.

There are three methods of theft (understatement of meter readings):

1. Mechanical. It means appropriate intervention in the operation of the device. This can be slowing down the rotation of the disk by direct mechanical action, changing the position of the electric meter by tilting it by 45 ° (for the same purpose). Sometimes a more barbaric method is used, namely, the seals are broken, and the mechanism is unbalanced. An experienced specialist will instantly detect mechanical interference.
2. Electric. This can be as an illegal connection to the overhead line by "surge", a method of investing the phase of the load current, as well as the use of special devices for its full or partial compensation. In addition, there are options with shunting the current circuit of the meter or switching phase and zero.
3. Magnetic. With this method, a neodymium magnet is brought to the body of the induction meter.

Almost all modern metering devices cannot be "deceived" by the methods described above. Moreover, such intervention attempts can be recorded by the device and stored in memory, which will lead to sad consequences.

The concept of loss rate

This term refers to the establishment of economically sound criteria for non-targeted expenditure for a certain period. When normalizing, all components are taken into account. Each of them is carefully analyzed separately. As a result, calculations are made taking into account the actual (absolute) level of costs for the past period and an analysis of various possibilities that allow realizing the identified reserves to reduce losses. That is, the standards are not static, but are regularly reviewed.

The absolute level of costs in this case means the balance between the transmitted electricity and technical (relative) losses. Process loss standards are determined by appropriate calculations.

Who pays for electricity losses?

It all depends on the defining criteria. If we are talking about technological factors and the costs of supporting the operation of related equipment, then the payment for losses is included in the tariffs for consumers.

The situation is completely different with the commercial component, if the laid down rate of losses is exceeded, the entire economic burden is considered to be the expenses of the company that supplies electricity to consumers.

Ways to reduce losses in electrical networks

You can reduce costs by optimizing the technical and commercial components. In the first case, the following steps should be taken:

• Optimization of the scheme and mode of operation of the power grid.
• Study static stability and allocation of powerful load nodes.
• Reducing the total power due to the reactive component. As a result, the share of active power will increase, which will positively affect the fight against losses.
• Load optimization of transformers.
• Modernization of equipment.
• Various load balancing methods. For example, this can be done by introducing a multi-tariff payment system, in which the cost of kWh is increased during peak hours. This will allow significant electricity consumption in certain periods days, as a result, the actual voltage will not “sag” below the permissible norms.

You can reduce business costs in the following ways:

• regular search for unauthorized connections;
• creation or expansion of units exercising control;
• verification of testimony;
• automation of data collection and processing.

Methodology and example for calculating electricity losses

In practice, the following methods are used to determine losses:

• carrying out operational calculations;
• daily criterion;
• calculation of average loads;
• analysis of the largest losses of transmitted power in the context of days-hours;
• access to aggregated data.

Full information on each of the methods presented above can be found in the regulatory documents.

In conclusion, we give an example of calculating costs in a power transformer TM 630-6-0.4. The calculation formula and its description are given below, it is suitable for most types of such devices.

Calculation of losses in a power transformer

To understand the process, you should familiarize yourself with the main characteristics of TM 630-6-0.4.

Now let's move on to the calculation.

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Payment for electricity losses

In SNT, in addition to paying for electricity, meter readings require payment for losses. Is it legal.

About what power losses in question if, in accordance with Article 157 of the Housing Code of the Russian Federation, you pay for electricity using a meter. The requirement is, of course, illegal.

I lost my electricity bill, what should I do? How to pay?

In the relevant energy company, when you apply, you are required to inform you of the amount of your debt, to issue a copy of the receipt. IN personal account companies, if you register you can also find out the debt and pay.

Please, what is the maximum percentage of losses when paying for electricity, according to the law, that can be charged in snt? Is there a maximum or is this percentage unlimited.

Hello, no regulation regarding the percentage of electricity losses has been established, the members of the partnership must pay the costs based on the decision of the general meeting of the members of the partnership.

The SEC does not have enough money to pay for electricity due to losses (theft). Where to get money legally? Can membership fees be paid off?

Good afternoon We are not obliged to give you such advice, where you can get money, what you can spend membership fees on, it is written in your charter. All the best.

Hello. These issues must be resolved at the general meeting. And theft must be stopped. Install a common electricity meter and individual ones. Contact the energy company for help.

Hello Oleg! Call a general meeting, exact from those responsible for theft. If the charter of the SPK provides for the possibility of spending membership fees on such expenses, then this is possible.

Hello. This issue must be resolved at the meeting. Or you should have provisions in the charter regarding membership fees, what they should be spent on.

We live in the country, I pay the bill for electricity consumption and another 5% loss. Should the consumer be charged for losses or should the power supply company compensate for these costs?

Gardening associations always bear the cost of electricity losses. If you live in a dacha, then you pay, apparently, according to the contractual terms of the dacha society with the energy supply organization.

I lost my utility bill. Now they say that I have to pay 1800 rubles for electricity. Where to find a receipt if the payment was for March 2015

You should be asked to make an extract

For paying for electricity in the store, they take 5% of losses from me, I would like to know on what basis. The store has grounding.

Contact the power supply company.

The payment for electricity losses depends on the used kW. ?St. requires payment of losses five times the amount of payment on the counter.

Art. requires payment of losses five times the amount of payment on the counter --- do not pay anything. more than your meter showed. (i.e. more than double the size) you have the right not to pay. You have 100 sq. and you can pay for the same amount. but not more)

The situation is this. I lost my payment for electricity and ended up paying it later than the billing period, i.e. behind the trail I paid off my debt for a month. But today in the mailbox I found a claim from the HOA for non-payment as of the date when the debt had not yet been paid. But now it's paid off. Do I need to pay anything else?

The debt has been paid. You can submit a receipt to the HOA

According to the court, it was appointed to pay for the loss of electricity (not ODN) in the amount of 3 thousand rubles. On the website of bailiffs, my debt is 900 rubles. The energy company sent a notice to pay 2100 rubles. Whom to pay and how much?

go to the bailiffs and specify by which court decision you owe 900 rubles, and at the energy company, specify what the debt is 2100 rubles and show the court decision for 3000 rubles. Compare all options and understand how much debt comes from

I live in ST Yarovskoye. We are obliged to pay 10% of the total payment for electricity, as for losses. Are we obliged to pay for electricity losses in excess of the current tariffs? THANK YOU.

No, they are not required. Losses must be included in the tariff.

Good afternoon. You have the right to write a complaint to the prosecutor's office. Let officials check the legitimacy of such claims. In accordance with federal law dated 17.01.1992 N 2202-1 "On the Prosecutor's Office of the Russian Federation": Article 10. Consideration and Resolution of Applications, Complaints and Other Appeals in Prosecution Bodies 1. Statements, complaints and other appeals containing information about violations of laws are resolved in the procuracy bodies in accordance with their powers. The decision taken by the prosecutor does not prevent a person from applying to the court for the protection of his rights. A decision on a complaint against a sentence, decision, ruling and ruling of a court may be appealed only to a higher prosecutor...

We are stealing electricity in an apartment building Energosbyt losses scatter payments among residents whether their actions are lawful. And another question, I received a recalculation for 2 years and they issued an invoice, although I paid everything on time and everything was in order, they explained that I now have a different current account and the machine calculated so. What should I do Thank you.

Good afternoon If you have metering devices (meters) installed, then no one has the right to force you to pay for unused energy resources. On the issue of recalculation for 2 years, I recommend that you make a claim, where you indicate your disagreement with the recalculation and a request to provide in writing the validity of such a recalculation, the amount, etc., to invite the company to cancel such calculations. You can make a claim in 2 copies. and hand it over against signature, in addition, I recommend setting a deadline for responding to your claim (usually 10 days).

The debt for utility bills (electricity) was deducted from the survivor's benefit. The bailiffs removed the arrest from the accounts. How do I short time return the money? Since some of them go to pay the loan. In addition, no one lives in the room where the debt for electricity is for a long time, and a corresponding application was written to the Management Company three years ago, but as it turned out, the debt for electricity only continues to grow.

Hello Olga! If the bailiffs took up the case, then there was a court decision to collect the debt for the consumed electricity. If you did not take part in it (were not notified about the process), then I recommend that you familiarize yourself with the case materials in court. If you do not find in the materials the fact of confirmation of the notice to you about the time and place court session then you can appeal the decision. If you were notified, then you can't do anything. What is the confirmation of non-occupancy in the room? Recalculation of the fee for public utilities is carried out by the contractor within 5 working days after receiving a written application from the consumer for recalculation of the amount of payment for utilities (hereinafter referred to as the application for recalculation), submitted before the start of the period of temporary absence of the consumer or no later than 30 days after the end of the period of temporary absence of the consumer. If an application for recalculation is submitted before the beginning of the period of temporary absence of the consumer, the recalculation of the amount of payment for utilities is carried out by the contractor for the period of temporary absence of the consumer specified in the application, but not more than 6 months. If after 6 months, for which the contractor has recalculated the amount of payment for utilities, the period of temporary absence of the consumer continues and the consumer has submitted an application for recalculation for subsequent billing periods in connection with the extension of the period of temporary absence, then the recalculation of the amount of payment for utilities is carried out by the contractor for the period specified in the application for the extension of the period of temporary absence of the consumer, n o no more than 6 months following the period for which the contractor recalculated the amount of utility bills. If the consumer who submitted an application for recalculation before the start of the period of temporary absence did not submit documents confirming the duration of his absence, or the documents submitted do not confirm the temporary absence of the consumer during all or part of the period specified in the application for recalculation, the contractor charges the utility bill for the period of unconfirmed absence in full in accordance with these Rules and has the right to apply the consequences of untimely and (or) incomplete payment for utilities. If an application for recalculation is submitted within 30 days after the end of the period of temporary absence of the consumer, the contractor recalculates the amount of payment for utilities for the period of temporary absence, confirmed by the submitted documents, taking into account payments previously accrued by the contractor to the consumer for the period of recalculation. Those. recalculation statements must be written every 6 months. In addition to this, I would advise you to apply to the Criminal Code with a statement to disconnect your room from electricity consumption with mandatory documentary fixation of the fact of disconnection. The meaning is that it is impossible even in the absence of a meter to pay according to the standards in a disconnected room.

She lost the receipt for payment for electricity, and, as if on purpose, this payment was not received at the account of the sales company. How can I prove payment, can a payment receipt be restored at the post office?

Yes, contact the post office, they should have a payment in the database.

Does the landlord have the right to demand payment for electricity losses according to the calculation performed by his power engineer.

Dear Alexander Alexandrovich, Rostov-on-Don! The tenant must pay only for the actually consumed electricity based on the terms of the concluded contract. Good luck Vladimir Nikolaevich Ufa 05/05/2014 14:27 Moscow.

Bought a house. Lost electricity bill. In the organization passed the latest meter readings. What should I do: pay the debts of the previous owner or start paying from the moment the meter reads, which are recorded when buying a house?

see the sales contract. If the contract states that it is being sold without debts (something like this), then the "old" owner of the apartment must pay. If not, then most likely the debt will be demanded from you. Now you need to contact the energy supply company to make demands on the "old" owner for his consumption (Article 210 of the Civil Code)

In addition to paying for electricity according to the meter, they add losses for electricity to me. Do they have the right to demand payment for electricity losses in excess of meter readings?

This is illegal. You pay for consumption, and losses are the losses of the Power Supply Organization, its risks.

Nikolai Vasilyevich, everyone knows that electricity consumers must pay for losses in transmission lines. True, not everyone should do it. According to the law, electricity losses are paid only by those consumers whose metering device is not installed at the balance line. This border separates the networks of the consumer and the network company, from whose networks he receives electricity. Losses of the network company, which are integral part tariffs for electric energy are already included in the tariff for the transportation of electricity, that is, in the cost of each consumed kilowatt / hour. Therefore, if the point of supply of electrical energy is indicated in the energy supply agreement or the act of delimitation of the balance sheet, for example, in the ASU of the building, and as a rule, metering devices are also installed there, then losses should not be paid.

I lost my electricity bill in country house. When contacting the power supply, it turned out that they could not find me as a subscriber. I don't have a single payment receipt, I only have a project for electricity supply from 2004. They threaten to turn it off or demand to conclude a new contract. Can I restore or issue a new subscriber number if I have a project? I am ready to pay everything according to the meter readings, it is still easier and cheaper than re-registration.
What to do?
Thank you!

If you made payments, then "traces" of this should remain. For example, you did it with transfers from a bank account. In addition, try to remember in whose name the contract was drawn up. Maybe on another family member or on your behalf, everything was drawn up by a representative who could confuse. Sometimes the confusion is due to the presence of the letter "ё" in the surname, which is sometimes indicated, sometimes not, and then the computer cannot find the data.

Light / Electricity in SNT

For one reason or another, not all the electricity received by the SNT (horticultural non-profit partnership) is consumed by the owners of summer cottages. Losses in networks and the transformer are inevitable. Plus - inevitable in many cases, the theft of electricity by some of the members of the SNT. But we will not go into technical details. Consumers are interested main question: are they obliged to pay these losses additionally through membership fees or is such an “error” already taken into account in the current tariff for SNT?

There are a lot of summer residents in our country. Usually these are elderly people who have formed beliefs. That's why this question really important to them. It is not surprising that on the forums, gardeners are often interested in why losses should be paid by everyone in equal shares, although some people spend more electricity (kW per month), while others consume the minimum amount. Below is the official response from the Regional Energy Commission Vologda region help clarify the situation.

Electricity in SNT. Do members of a gardening partnership have to pay additionally for losses in the transmission of electricity in the networks of this gardening partnership, or is it already included in the tariff?

In accordance with paragraph 27 Guidelines on the calculation of regulated tariffs and prices for electrical (thermal) energy in the retail (consumer) market, approved by order FTS of Russia dated August 6, 2004 No. 20-e / 2, calculation of tariffs for horticultural, gardening or country non-profit associations of citizens - non-profit organizations, established by citizens on a voluntary basis to assist its members in solving the general socio-economic problems of gardening, horticulture and dacha farming, is carried out similarly to the "population" group.

As part of the tariff, end consumers pay for the costs of production, services for the transmission of a grid organization to the border with the networks of a horticultural partnership and the sale of electricity.

According to Article 210 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation, the owner bears the burden of financial expenses to maintain his property in proper condition, unless otherwise provided by law or contract. Thus, horticultural associations of citizens must ensure the maintenance and maintenance of their electrical networks and transformers, as well as payment for electricity losses in them at the expense of members of the horticultural association.

In accordance with paragraph 46 of the above Methodological Guidelines, when determining the tariff for electric power transmission services, consumer networks that are their property rights are not taken into account, provided that the maintenance, operation and development of these networks is carried out at the expense of these consumers. Therefore, mandatory compensation of expenses for the transmission of electricity supplied through the network section owned by the horticultural partnership is not provided for by the energy supply organization.